tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13493010.post113089102461147626..comments2011-10-05T17:55:15.183-04:00Pittsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15701313028266975294noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13493010.post-1131115373312482292005-11-04T09:42:00.000-05:002005-11-04T09:42:00.000-05:00I was thinking of "due use of ordinary means" along hermeneutical lines. However, Ephesians 3-4 does put a lot of stress on gifted teachers' role in the maturity of the body. I see how teachers, then, could be said to be necessary for perseverance; and, in that sense, teachers are necessary to salvation. Good question, Jmc: I'll have to put some more thought into that one.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, the framers of the confessions seem to have been thinking that the unlearned could understand the essential truths immediately from the Scriptures without the aid of teachers. If the unlearned are dependent on teachers (i.e. the learned) to arrive at the clear (and therefore essential) truths, then why would the framers have made a distinction between the two groups? On your proposal only the teachers (i.e. learned) have immediate knowledge of the essential truths from the Scriptures.Pittsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15701313028266975294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13493010.post-1130964196598681872005-11-02T15:43:00.000-05:002005-11-02T15:43:00.000-05:00Thanks Pitts. Looking forward to next post.kevin mcfaddenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04482751560868150550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13493010.post-1130893374573149622005-11-01T20:02:00.000-05:002005-11-01T20:02:00.000-05:00Good. How do we go about finding those 'core' truths? Also, does 'due use of ordinary means' involve placing oneself under the teaching ministry of one so gifted?jared comptonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03062842125347453282noreply@blogger.com